Julia Ford won the Nor-Am DH title. |
UPDATE: The original caption for the lead photo stated that Julia Ford had made the US Ski Team in addition to winning the Nor-Am DH title. In fact, she just missed making criteria, so we won't know for sure until the nominations come out in May. It's also worth mentioning that a couple skiers are very close to criteria, and depending on what happens with adders and expiring scores with other athletes across the world, they may sneak in and make the criteria based on the May list, which is the list the nominations are made from.
Lots of great stuff has happened since the last post (almost a month ago... oops). There was that time that Ford Swette scored a 13 and a 12. There was that time that Mikaela Shiffrin repeated as US National Slalom champion. There was that one guy who tore his ACL on the new 35m skis, reported by Ski Racing. Then there was the ensuing commentary below on that story that pointed in that a few others skiers have already fallen victim to the new skis as well. 3 or 4 skiers doesn't exactly constitute a major crisis, but the nature of the rules and of these injuries does ensure that we'll all be watching carefully over the Summer. Of course, this all happened AFTER Ted figured out that he's maybe actually faster on the 35m skis than on his old stuff. Man, this is getting pretty complicated.
And now, it seems, there's no more women's D-Team. You read that right. The US Women's Development Team is no longer a thing. Instead, word is that they've opted to move a few of the best skiers from the D-Team up to the C-Team (most of whom were already on the C-Team, for all intents and purposes), along with the D-Team coaches, and it appears that USSA is leaving it to ski clubs across the country to figure out the rest.
So, women in ski racing, good luck realizing your dreams of making the US Ski Team and trying to ski World Cup. It's been difficult to get your foot in the door in the last year or two, what with the political roulette and abundant use of Discretion. Now the door has closed even tighter. You now have to have under 20 points in SL or GS, PLUS either a Nor-Am title or sub-12 points in the other event (or 22 DH points or 15 SG points) to make the US Ski Team at the lowest level.
The US Ski Team's "Best in the World" slogan has now become a delightfully self-fulfilled prophecy. To make the Ski Team, you have to already be one of the best in the world. Nice how that works out, isn't it? Essentially, if you take a PG year and aren't skiing around 12 points by the end of the year, you're not going to make the US Ski Team. More athletes will probably take PG years because of the age change (college coaches only have 1 year of FIS skiing to look at to evaluate recruits), but to meet this sort of criteria they'll have to take multiple PG years (like probably 3 or 4). This is impossible for most people, and since USSA has never looked favorably on college skiing as a means of development, what does the future hold for the US Women's Ski Team?
Right now, the following skiers qualify for the US Ski Team based on published criteria:
Lindsey Vonn
Julia Mancuso
Mikaela Shiffrin
Leanne Smith
Laurenne Ross
Stacey Cook
Alice McKennis
Resi Stiegler
And I believe that's it. Will there be more than 8 skiers on the Team? Probably. How will they qualify for the Team? It's really anyone's guess. The blanket of Discretion is big, soundproof, and doesn't let very much light through. In any case, there has been no information about any sort of women's tryout camp disseminated to coaches or athletes outside the Ski Team, so that integral part of the the equation, important enough to be used for men's C- and D-Team selections this year, appears to have gone by the wayside.
This is disappointing on a number of levels. First of all, it's disappointing that this is the caliber of development system that USSA feels it owes female skiers in this country. The youngest person to qualify for the Women's Team was born in 1989, aside from Mikaela Shiffrin, who is a '95. If you take Mikaela out of the equation (because she's a special case. Stop denying it), the youngest skier to make criteria is 23-years old. Given the huge percentage of athlete turnover at the D-Team level in the last two years, this does not speak well of the development system we've been given by USSA. The response of the US Ski Team? Cut ties with your development program altogether. Don't believe it? Check the status of the NDS in a couple of months. Word is that it's already all but gone, with regions already wondering, "Who's going to pay for this?"
It's also disappointing that the nomination system has regressed from a clear set of objective standards to a game of politics and discretionary picks. On first glance, a read through USSA's nomination criteria seems straightforward. Different standards for different ages. Seems to make sense. Except that, starting at the B-Team level and moving down, there's that little bullet that says "Coaches' Discretion." Get down to the D-Team list and you'll notice that, in addition to Discretion, your nomination only counts towards a selection camp, at which point you are sized up on ability (a subjective measure) and not points/rankings (an objective measure). It's a fine line. After all, without Discretion, we might not have a D-Team for either gender.
So, issues with ageism aside, the objective criteria set forth by USSA are rendered almost meaningless as politics and favor take over. The Criteria guidelines explain that part of Coaches' Discretion is an assessment of "Attitude and Commitment." This says it all. If they don't like your attitude, or they judge your "commitment" (in quotes because, really, what does that even mean?) to be sub-par, then they don't have to take you. This kind of interpersonal assessment and judgement is unacceptable, especially for young skiers who are developing not only as athletes, but as human beings too. Want to develop an athlete's attitude? Want to help them learn to be more committed? Coach them well. Don't kick them out.
Didn't we go to objective criteria specifically to get away from stuff like this?
If this were pro sports, this would all be fine. If the New York Yankees don't like your attitude, then you're fired. Should've had a better attitude. They're a private business, so they can do that. But it's not pro sports. Quite the opposite, in fact. This is a system that we all pay into at length, and though some skiers are paid with endorsement deals from individual companies, USSA itself is an amateur sporting organization, and as such should be obligated to us, the paying members, to provide equal opportunity for advancement based on a set of objective criteria. They are not free to hire and fire athletes as they see fit, but it sure seems like that's what's going on.
Incidentally, cutting out the women's D-Team may put USSA in violation of the Ted Stevens Olympic and Amateur Sports Act. Specifically, Section 220524, Subsection 6, which states that one of the duties of a national governing body is to:
(6) provide equitable support and encouragement for participation by women whereSeems pretty straightforward. Binding arbitration, anyone?
separate programs for male and female athletes are conducted on a national basis;
--Lead photo of Julia Ford borrowed from Zimbio.com
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check your facts! more girls make criteria than that!
ReplyDeleteHmm, I just went back and checked again, I couldn't find anyone I missed. Can you fill me in?
DeleteClick here to see the US Ski Team's nomination criteria for 2012-2013
Click here for the most current FIS points list
Thanks.
Julie Ford made criteria easily...she scored WC points which puts her top 60 in the WCSL and on the B-Team
DeleteAnonymous is right but cause Ford is 43 in DH on WCSL which makes B team for women 1990 and younger.
DeleteFord Swette WJ GS Champ 2013 Believe it!
ReplyDeleteFord likes Panorama, doesn't he?
ReplyDeleteFord likes giant slalom. Just happens that we race more at Panorama than any other mountain.
ReplyDeleteford....ghent
ReplyDeleteGiven her age, Ghent needs to make top 100 World Ranking. On current list, she is #103 in SG. Technically, she doesn't make criteria, though obviously a strong case can be made for exercising discretion in a case like that.
DeleteSo rumor is, they are going to take those girls to Europe for most of the winter. Three girls (Wales? She doesn't make criteria either ... So does she have to go on her own dime?). Where does that leave the speed points at NorAms? How can anyone score low enough to make criteria, if they take the folks with any points away?
Look at the numbers. Neither of those girls make critera.
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very interesting. on the one hand, it makes sense that they're cutting out the d team, because the usst has so clearly failed at developing young women. women, and men are in such a bind, because when they get the invite to join, and they don't (bc they can't foot the $25,000 bill, or think that traveling to the same nor-am/college race/trip to europe scenario would be better managed by their academy)the usst doesn't often give them a second look. if they sign on with the usst, they will likely be poorly managed, coached and kicked off the next year. what they should not be doing, if they're pushing development to clubs/programs is taking away nds funding. the message is, you develop them, oh, and pay for it, too. incredible. i wonder what the thinking is? the usst should pull from college programs, then at least these young athletes are given a chance to get an education, while they work toward criteria. the level of college skiing (D1) has never been as high.
ReplyDeleteWhy I am not surprised by any of this? What a sad commentary on the state of the US Ski Team.
ReplyDeleteGreed at the top levels leads to insufficient funds to retain coaches with skill and passion at the lower levels. When the substandard coaches, who are willing to work for low pay, and a nifty jacket, are unable to develop these promising, hard working and dedicated athletes, this organization, that exacts severe retribution against those who speak out, dismisses the athletes yet retains and advances the substandard coaches.
ReplyDeleteYou have some good points here but it is a little contradictory to say it is greed at the upper level on the one hand while admitting that National Team coaches make very little money. There are very few National Team coaches that are "substandard" or incapable of developing talent. The sad fact is that the current regime distrusts any American coach. Just look at the state of the Men's Staff (2 new high dollar AUT coaches at the expense of Americans) and the burgeoning USSA Academy (which is another topic and total joke in itself).
DeletePistenchef, as to the gender issue you correctly point out under the Act's §220524 (6), methinks a different remedy likely applies. Under §220527 (a)(1) of the Act any aggrieved party file a complaint with the USOC against its national governing body. All one has to do is file a written complaint alleging that the provision is not being followed. In such a case, ANY member of the NGB, e.g. any card carrying USSA member has standing to file such a grievance based on the gender equality provision. If the USOC finds that the complaint has merit, they put the NGB on 180 days probation so they can get their act together.
ReplyDeleteThe remedy to which you refer requires that an NGB participate in binding arbitration in the event that an individual athlete (or coach, trainer, official, etc.) is not allowed to "participate in amateur athletic competition." Plenty of examples there also (double-secret November Colorado FIS races, anyone?).
The USOC also provides for the funding of an ombudsman, who offices at the USOC, who is charged with advising athletes in NGB's of their rights on issues such as these in the strictest of confidence.
There are some other glaring examples of the NGB not following the provisions of the Act or its sprit, in that athletes in many cases are invited to compete at the highest international levels, without funding, while simultaneously being completely restricted from raising their own funds. In signing the USST athlete agreement, said athletes must agree to stay away from soliciting any product or service that runs afoul of USSA's lengthy "category exclusivity" list (you name it, it's on there), sign away basically ALL worldwide rights to their name and likeness to USSA, and must receive written permission to even associate their name with USSA or the USST when they might contemplate raising funds for themselves through, for example, a golf tournament.
Kind of makes you respect Werner that much more...
For years the USST counts on one, it's membership not knowing it's rules and regulations, and two regularly changing the rules and regulations when it suits their purpose
ReplyDelete"nomination system has regressed from a clear set of objective standards to a game of politics and discretionary picks" Can you please tell me how the Dudes that made criteria on the D-team did this Season? Then tell me how the dudes off discretion did this season?
ReplyDeleteNot an easy question to answer. Technically, only one guy on the D Team met criteria last May -- Nicholas Krause -- and only one guy totally meets criteria this spring -- Bryce Bennett. Nonetheless, quite a few of the D Team guys are pretty darn close to criteria (i.e. Krause needs to be top 265 in one event and top 400 in a second event, and he's ranked 249 in DH and 415 in GS, so his second event is just a fraction of a point above criteria). Since the criteria for each racer tighten each year, as they get older, these D Team guys are actually closer to making criteria than they were a year ago -- in short, according to their point profiles, they are getting better and faster. Unlike the women's D Team, the men's D Team actually can point to C Team and B Team athletes who have moved up through the D Team, learned something, improved their skiing, and gotten ready to race at higher levels.
DeleteMckennis, Ross, Smith and Ford have moved up through women's d-team.....lets not forget!
Deletethat was many years ago, and Julia was the last, and that was at least three years ago, andf I am not certian that she met c- team criteria when she moved up.One in the last three years does not bode well for the development system. What happens more frequently than not is that the best, the most talented women athletes, stop developing when on the d- team, and discretionaly picks have to be used to field enough skiers. The best theory is that they had better coaches at the club level.
DeleteBrian Mac made criteria last season, along with Scott Snow, Sandy V, Nick K. Im just trying to say that just because you can ski fast, and score points doesn't mean your technically strong to move up through the ranks to become a worldcup Champ. Criteria is good, just not everything.
Deletequestion; is it the fault of the USST that domestic clubs and academies are not producing athletes who are able to make D Team criteria? clubs in other countries are producing athletes who would make this criteria. Canada even has a few. I assume that all of you coaches who are bitching and moaning about the USST Development Team are working for clubs in these other countries?
ReplyDeleteI went through the rankings to see how many junior females meet D Team criteria worldwide. Answer: 52, plus Mikaela Shiffrin. That's in the entire world! And the USST expects to fill its D Team, approximately ten strong, with girls who meet criteria? Seems like these criteria are awfully demanding, if that small a number, in the whole world meet these vaunted criteria. And the number of US junior female skiers (aside from Shiffrin) who meet criteria? None!
DeleteIt's not that we don't have skiers, eventually. After all, the US has the strongest women's downhill team in the world -- what was it, six at WC Finals, out of 25 total racers who made finals? So what gives? And what about the tech side -- do all the promising tech racers just give up and go to college?
52, fifty-fucking-two, and the us only has one. To me, 52 is a lot, and seems as though the problem is in the clubs and not in the criteria. I don't think the us is looking to get 10 on the d team, although that would be great, but i think 5 should not be a problem.
DeleteYou can't lay all the blame on the clubs. Look at the results of the girls who were chosen to ski with the D team the last few years. Not many of them ended up with better point profiles. Shouldn't we see better progression for a larger number of D team girls given the resources they have? Certainly some of the blame lies with the D team system, schedule and coaches.
DeleteYes, i agree, you cannot put all the blame on the clubs, just as you cannot put all the blame on the usst!
ReplyDeleteI think that Skiracemom brings up a great point. Yes there are 52 ladies in the World that would meet the published age group appropriate published criteria for the USST Ladies D Team or above. The problem may not lie so much in the criteria itself, although it may. One thought process could be argued that why do we use a WR system why not use a US based system, after all we are fielding a USA based team? (but thats for another blog!). The problem in the states comes from the fact that there are so very few races that ladies can enter that have the penalty to generate these types of points. If you look at the 52 a great majority of those ladies scored their results at FIS races. Not at EC's. Looking at the NorAms there is little opportunity to generate those types of points and even fewer if any FIS races. So the problem is not so much that no US ladies can meet perhaps, but that there are just not that many opportunities for them to do it. I personally think it is a combination of both. I think what you will see is the 93-95 age group will be left to float and the next group you will see courted by the USST for devo will be the 96's or your current u16 group. The question remains: Will the criteria change to meet the new USSA philosophies on selection and advancement OR will we forced to go back again to a discretion based selection and advancement OR will we have no one on the ladies team in a few seasons. I mean Vonn and Jules have a few years left and there's Shiff. Maybe thats good enough for them???? We shall see!!!!
ReplyDeletegold medals at olympics and world champs and podiums at world cups pay the bills! mediocrity does not!
ReplyDeleteOlympic Gold medals and World Champs do pay the bills. Well I agree that OG Gold Medals pay the bills. Outside of the true race fan the American public has no idea about World Champs or any other kind of ski racing for that matter except OG's. That being said, if you only have support for the athletes that are at the WC/OG level through the team, how will you develop the next generation of WC/OG athletes?
DeleteMy compliments to Troy Watts for actually putting his "name on it".
ReplyDeleteNever mind. Completely new criteria revealed at USSA meeting, based on head-to-head competition in NorAms, U18 Nationals, US Nationals. Those juniors who perform best (lowest race points) in those races will be selected to the D Team. All the gory details not clear, but the basic idea is only those races count. Chasing points is so yesterday's news.
ReplyDeletewell that will take out all the questions as to who are the best girls in the nation. What are all the crazy f---ing parents going to do now??? omg, they will freak out, no more studying everyone's points at each race.
Deletepistenchef, theres a story for you.....how about writing about all the crazy parents out there and how they have ruined the lives and careers of soo many athletes. i could name 4 without even putting any thought into, 2 on our own national team. thats a story that will create a buzz!
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Since the title of the article is "Disappearing Development" it seems fair to mention that a similar phenomenon is happening on the men's side but it is more masked and nobody is talking about it. While the Women's D team is gone the C team has been bolstered, on the Men's side, the C team, which it must be argued had an exceptional year, has been pared down with the emphasis now put on the top guys and "development." The money has gone to the WC group (because as somebody rightfully mentioned it is OWG medals that pay the bills) and the USSA academy which is a poor excuse for raising the bar of development in the US. Now there are fewer resources for C team athletes (the staff has been dramatically shrunk, not traveling to NZ over the summer to name a few examples) and the athletes are paying even more money. This squeeze in the middle is only going to compound the development problem by disrupting a key step in the development process- getting good guys better.
ReplyDeleteGood Stuff, all around. Regarding the clubs producing more capable athletes, that is going to happen as more kids are pushed back into the regions by the downsizing of national development. There was a time when the entire WJC men's team was from ONE eastern academy. Families/athletes have to make sure they are getting their money's worth, be it the 25K to the USST, or another program. Competition is good in this area. Every country that exceeds our development productivity has more collective strength in their regions. Time to step up, get some academies/programs to work together, and rub some peoples noses in the results!!! Lets stop bitching about what the ski team can't do, and do a better job of it ourselves. WJC spots are up for grabs (Noram points), go and get them.
ReplyDeleteThe criteria is the same for the men (actually a bit more difficult), so it is clearly not a gender-equality argument here. Why do the young US women suck? Blame it on whoever you want, but our women are weak. Maybe less facebook albums and more training???
ReplyDeleteThis was so thrilling to watch. We had the tv on non-stop at our house the entire time the Winter Olympics were playing. Lucky for us though, we had a really good excuse. A couple of days into the Winter Olympics, our town got hit with a massive blizzard, and we were snowed in for a few days. Basically we had nothing better to do than warm up in front of the tv all day. We had a lot of fun though. My kids had a great time with the couple of extra days that they didn't have to go to school.
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